[OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office

[Dan Avni]

A few months ago I read somewhere that a software package for OO Hebrew is going to be released to better support document interchange between MS-Office and OO. It was said the software package will be released around January 2007. does anyone have any idea where I can find this software and when will it be released?

Dani Avni
"You cannot achieve the impossible without attempting the absurd."

[Eli Yacouel]

I have downloaded it from their site: Open Office.org
Eli Yacouel

Post by Dan Avni
A few months ago I read somewhere that a software package for OO Hebrew
is going to be released to better support document interchange between
MS-Office and OO. It was said the software package will be released around
January 2007. does anyone have any idea where I can find this software and
when will it be released?
Dani Avni
"You cannot achieve the impossible without attempting the absurd."

[Jonathan Ben Avraham]

Hi Dan,
This is news to me. Where did you see this?

- yba

Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 11:57:00 +0200
Subject: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office
A few months ago I read somewhere that a software package for OO Hebrew
is going to be released to better support document interchange between
MS-Office and OO. It was said the software package will be released
around January 2007. does anyone have any idea where I can find this
software and when will it be released?
Dani Avni
"You cannot achieve the impossible without attempting the absurd."

[Dan Avni]

Don't remember. That is why my question is so unfocused. It was at least 4 months ago on a web site I browsed


Dani Avni
OfficeCore.com
[phone]
[phone]
[phone]
http://www.officecore.co.il
http://www.smscenter.co.il
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Ben Avraham [mailto:***@tkos.co.il]
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:18 PM
To: Dan Avni
Cc: ***@openoffice.org.il
Subject: Re: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office

Hi Dan,
This is news to me. Where did you see this?

- yba

Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 11:57:00 +0200
Subject: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office
A few months ago I read somewhere that a software package for OO
Hebrew is going to be released to better support document interchange
between MS-Office and OO. It was said the software package will be
released around January 2007. does anyone have any idea where I can
find this software and when will it be released?
Dani Avni
"You cannot achieve the impossible without attempting the absurd."

[Tomer Gabel]

I don't know which package you mean specifically, but the "vanilla"
OpenOffice.org interoperates VERY well with Word, Excel and PowerPoint -- so

well that it's become a staple of our business. Give it a whirl, I doubt
you'd be disappointed.

Regards,
Tomer



-----Original Message-----
From: hebrew-***@openoffice.org.il
[mailto:hebrew-***@openoffice.org.il] On Behalf Of Dan Avni
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:31 PM
To: Jonathan Ben Avraham
Cc: ***@openoffice.org.il
Subject: RE: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office

Don't remember. That is why my question is so unfocused. It was at least 4
months ago on a web site I browsed


Dani Avni
OfficeCore.com
[phone]
[phone]
[phone]
http://www.officecore.co.il
http://www.smscenter.co.il
"You cannot achieve the impossible without attempting the absurd."



-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Ben Avraham [mailto:***@tkos.co.il]
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:18 PM
To: Dan Avni
Cc: ***@openoffice.org.il
Subject: Re: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office

Hi Dan,
This is news to me. Where did you see this?

- yba

Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 11:57:00 +0200
Subject: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office
A few months ago I read somewhere that a software package for OO
Hebrew is going to be released to better support document interchange
between MS-Office and OO. It was said the software package will be
released around January 2007. does anyone have any idea where I can
find this software and when will it be released?
Dani Avni
"You cannot achieve the impossible without attempting the absurd."

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[Ami Shlezinger]

PLease look at : http://www.informationweek.com/industries/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=197002933
Ami


-----äåãòä î÷åøéú-----
îàú: hebrew-***@openoffice.org.il áùí Tomer Gabel
ðùìç: à 04/02/2007 13:40
àì: ***@openoffice.org.il
ðåùà: RE: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office

I don't know which package you mean specifically, but the "vanilla"
OpenOffice.org interoperates VERY well with Word, Excel and PowerPoint -- so

well that it's become a staple of our business. Give it a whirl, I doubt
you'd be disappointed.

Regards,
Tomer



-----Original Message-----
From: hebrew-***@openoffice.org.il
[mailto:hebrew-***@openoffice.org.il] On Behalf Of Dan Avni
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:31 PM
To: Jonathan Ben Avraham
Cc: ***@openoffice.org.il
Subject: RE: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office

Don't remember. That is why my question is so unfocused. It was at least 4
months ago on a web site I browsed


Dani Avni
OfficeCore.com
[phone]
[phone]
[phone]
http://www.officecore.co.il
http://www.smscenter.co.il
"You cannot achieve the impossible without attempting the absurd."



-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Ben Avraham [mailto:***@tkos.co.il]
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:18 PM
To: Dan Avni
Cc: ***@openoffice.org.il
Subject: Re: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office

Hi Dan,
This is news to me. Where did you see this?

- yba

Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 11:57:00 +0200
Subject: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office
A few months ago I read somewhere that a software package for OO
Hebrew is going to be released to better support document interchange
between MS-Office and OO. It was said the software package will be
released around January 2007. does anyone have any idea where I can
find this software and when will it be released?
Dani Avni
"You cannot achieve the impossible without attempting the absurd."

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[Jonathan Ben Avraham]

Hi Ami,
The project mentioned in the link is the docx-odt translator. This has
little to do with MS Office OOo compatability.

The OOo native format is not ODT. To use ODT with OOo you actually use
filters like the .DOC filters. So using the docx-odt project with OOo
means that you do double translation, doc->odt->sxw, instead of the
current single translation doc->sxw when opening MS Office documents. Hard
for me to beleive that this will offer any improvement. If anything, it
will make the situation worse, at least initially.

Alan?

- yba

Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 13:57:53 +0200
Subject: RE: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office
PLease look at : http://www.informationweek.com/industries/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=197002933
Ami
-----äåãòä î÷åøéú-----
ðùìç: à 04/02/2007 13:40
ðåùà: RE: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office
I don't know which package you mean specifically, but the "vanilla"
OpenOffice.org interoperates VERY well with Word, Excel and PowerPoint -- so
well that it's become a staple of our business. Give it a whirl, I doubt
you'd be disappointed.
Regards,
Tomer
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:31 PM
To: Jonathan Ben Avraham
Subject: RE: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office
Don't remember. That is why my question is so unfocused. It was at least 4
months ago on a web site I browsed
Dani Avni
OfficeCore.com
[phone]
[phone]
[phone]
http://www.officecore.co.il
http://www.smscenter.co.il
"You cannot achieve the impossible without attempting the absurd."
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:18 PM
To: Dan Avni
Subject: Re: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office
Hi Dan,
This is news to me. Where did you see this?
- yba

Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 11:57:00 +0200
Subject: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office
A few months ago I read somewhere that a software package for OO
Hebrew is going to be released to better support document interchange
between MS-Office and OO. It was said the software package will be
released around January 2007. does anyone have any idea where I can
find this software and when will it be released?
Dani Avni
"You cannot achieve the impossible without attempting the absurd."

[Ami Shlezinger]

Hi yba

As far as I understand Open Document is the default file format for OO (maybe not the native). Since I moved to OO2 I (and almost anybody else I know use the ODF) I save files only in ODF formats. SXW format is used only for backward compatability. ODF is one of the major advantages of OO.

Ami

-----äåãòä î÷åøéú-----
îàú: Jonathan Ben Avraham [mailto:***@tkos.co.il]
ðùìç: à 04/02/2007 14:22
àì: Ami Shlezinger
òåú÷ ìéãéòä: Tomer Gabel; ***@openoffice.org.il
ðåùà: RE: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office

Hi Ami,
The project mentioned in the link is the docx-odt translator. This has
little to do with MS Office OOo compatability.

The OOo native format is not ODT. To use ODT with OOo you actually use
filters like the .DOC filters. So using the docx-odt project with OOo
means that you do double translation, doc->odt->sxw, instead of the
current single translation doc->sxw when opening MS Office documents. Hard
for me to beleive that this will offer any improvement. If anything, it
will make the situation worse, at least initially.

Alan?

- yba

Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 13:57:53 +0200
Subject: RE: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office
PLease look at : http://www.informationweek.com/industries/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=197002933
Ami
-----äåãòä î÷åøéú-----
ðùìç: à 04/02/2007 13:40
ðåùà: RE: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office
I don't know which package you mean specifically, but the "vanilla"
OpenOffice.org interoperates VERY well with Word, Excel and PowerPoint -- so
well that it's become a staple of our business. Give it a whirl, I doubt
you'd be disappointed.
Regards,
Tomer
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:31 PM
To: Jonathan Ben Avraham
Subject: RE: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office
Don't remember. That is why my question is so unfocused. It was at least 4
months ago on a web site I browsed
Dani Avni
OfficeCore.com
[phone]
[phone]
[phone]
http://www.officecore.co.il
http://www.smscenter.co.il
"You cannot achieve the impossible without attempting the absurd."
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:18 PM
To: Dan Avni
Subject: Re: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office
Hi Dan,
This is news to me. Where did you see this?
- yba

Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 11:57:00 +0200
Subject: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office
A few months ago I read somewhere that a software package for OO
Hebrew is going to be released to better support document interchange
between MS-Office and OO. It was said the software package will be
released around January 2007. does anyone have any idea where I can
find this software and when will it be released?
Dani Avni
"You cannot achieve the impossible without attempting the absurd."

[Jonathan Ben Avraham]

Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 15:12:00 +0200
Subject: RE: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office
Hi yba
As far as I understand Open Document is the default file format for OO
(maybe not the native). Since I moved to OO2 I (and almost anybody else
I know use the ODF) I save files only in ODF formats. SXW format is used
only for backward compatability. ODF is one of the major advantages of
OO.
Ami

Hi Ami,
We are looking into the code of 2.1 and speaking with the developers in
Hamburg in order to understand to what degree OOo 2.X actually uses ODT as
the "native" format. The fact that the default file format for saving
documents changed to ODT in 2.X does not mean much in itself. It could be
just a change in the .xml setup files and not a change in the code. It
could also the case that even if the change is in the code that saves
to files and loads from file you still get better results using .sxw
instead of .odt because the conversion from the in-RAM document
representation to the on-disk ODT representation is not yet correct
(especially with regard to RTL behavior), or because there are some
elements of the in-RAM representation that do not map to anything in ODT.
I hope to have an answer for you in the next week.
Regards,

- yba

-----äåãòä î÷åøéú-----
ðùìç: à 04/02/2007 14:22
àì: Ami Shlezinger
ðåùà: RE: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office
Hi Ami,
The project mentioned in the link is the docx-odt translator. This has
little to do with MS Office OOo compatability.
The OOo native format is not ODT. To use ODT with OOo you actually use
filters like the .DOC filters. So using the docx-odt project with OOo
means that you do double translation, doc->odt->sxw, instead of the
current single translation doc->sxw when opening MS Office documents. Hard
for me to beleive that this will offer any improvement. If anything, it
will make the situation worse, at least initially.
Alan?
- yba

Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 13:57:53 +0200
Subject: RE: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office
PLease look at : http://www.informationweek.com/industries/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=197002933
Ami
-----äåãòä î÷åøéú-----
ðùìç: à 04/02/2007 13:40
ðåùà: RE: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office
I don't know which package you mean specifically, but the "vanilla"
OpenOffice.org interoperates VERY well with Word, Excel and PowerPoint -- so
well that it's become a staple of our business. Give it a whirl, I doubt
you'd be disappointed.
Regards,
Tomer
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:31 PM
To: Jonathan Ben Avraham
Subject: RE: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office
Don't remember. That is why my question is so unfocused. It was at least 4
months ago on a web site I browsed
Dani Avni
OfficeCore.com
[phone]
[phone]
[phone]
http://www.officecore.co.il
http://www.smscenter.co.il
"You cannot achieve the impossible without attempting the absurd."
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:18 PM
To: Dan Avni
Subject: Re: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office
Hi Dan,
This is news to me. Where did you see this?
- yba

Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 11:57:00 +0200
Subject: [OOo-Hebrew] OO compatibility with MS-Office
A few months ago I read somewhere that a software package for OO
Hebrew is going to be released to better support document interchange
between MS-Office and OO. It was said the software package will be
released around January 2007. does anyone have any idea where I can
find this software and when will it be released?
Dani Avni
"You cannot achieve the impossible without attempting the absurd."

[Frank Meies]

Hi Ami,

Post by Ami Shlezinger
As far as I understand Open Document is the default file format for OO
(maybe not the native). Since I moved to OO2 I (and almost anybody else
I know use the ODF) I save files only in ODF formats. SXW format is used
only for backward compatability. ODF is one of the major advantages of OO.

ODF is both the native and default file format. Saving to SXW will first
create an ODF stream which will be passed to a transformer writing SXW.
However, SXW and ODT should be totally equivalent, so this
transformation is "lossless".

Regards,

Frank

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[Frank Meies]

Post by Frank Meies

Post by Ami Shlezinger
As far as I understand Open Document is the default file format for OO
(maybe not the native). Since I moved to OO2 I (and almost anybody
else I know use the ODF) I save files only in ODF formats. SXW format
is used only for backward compatability. ODF is one of the major
advantages of OO.

ODF is both the native and default file format. Saving to SXW will first
create an ODF stream which will be passed to a transformer writing SXW.
However, SXW and ODT should be totally equivalent, so this
transformation is "lossless".

of course there's one restriction to this: Features which have been
added to OOo 2.0 will most likely be lost when saving to sxw.

Regards,

Frank

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[Errol Sapir]

Please explain "vanilla" OpenOffice.org.
Thanks
Errol

Post by Tomer Gabel
I don't know which package you mean specifically, but the "vanilla"
OpenOffice.org interoperates VERY well with Word, Excel and PowerPoint -- so
well that it's become a staple of our business. Give it a whirl, I doubt
you'd be disappointed.
Regards,
Tomer

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